LWT: American sunset x LWT2
November 3, 2023Development of CVR: Midnight Bliss is going well, and in short breaks between coding, testing and crafting additional items, I’m spending my time with the new edition of LWT1, which will be coded in RENPY.
The code name of that project is AMERICAN SUNSET, and it will not only be coded in a new engine but also will have a lot of significant changes according to the REDUX version.
- I plan to switch from a 24-hour system to 5 periods per day – it first needs to be tested, but I’m convinced that this approach will provide much more dynamics and variety to the daily schedule and allow us to manage the event system more easily and efficiently. Moreover, we’ll be able to present characters in different clothes at various periods of the day.
- we plan to make the game more story-driven than a stat builder. Of course, you still gonna raise your stats but we’ll try to make it more event-oriented than a mundane duty,
- Justin’s work is essential to him – we gonna help him build his career by creating a new module responsible for his copywriting. He will now have the possibility of selecting the type of story he wants to write – each story has a title and a cover represented by a visual. Also, with time he will get more experience allowing him to write faster and better. Probably we gonna expand it even further – if he wants to write a story about the kinky life of Cleopatra, he needs to get some experience in Egyptology in a local museum. That, of course, could lead to a sexy event with Tracy trying to impersonate Cleo, and… we all know how it might end,
- communication and social media are crucial as well, and for the first time, we’ll give Justin a mobile phone where he will be able to trace his friends’ activity online and interact with them,
- for all trophy hunters, we gonna add achievements and collectible items thrown all over the city,
- minor rework to the stat system, including kinks the girls like, stats with other characters he gonna meet in the game – everything will be toned and easy to follow,
- animations will be presented in a slightly different form – we’ll use actual renders we have so far, but we’ll show them with various speed radio, direction and some other effects, making them much more sensual and appealing
As mentioned, I’ve already assigned new locations – some samples below.
Derek’s place
Hannah’a apartment and instagram photo studio
Newly renovated Justin’s and Tracy’s basement
Garage under Justin’s house
Just a random hotel room for a swinging couple
Mexican gym trainer’s place
Prestigious loft of Justin’s publisher
Our team is already rendering the new events and daily actions. We’re starting with adding unique situations to the original plot lines, making the daily routine much more exciting and full of sexy surprises.
With time we gonna include much more sophisticated events, introducing new characters, which will always play a key role in putting our key sweethearts in the center of attention but in a slightly different light. All new events will be a more quest-driven chain of actions instead of a one-time event. New sex scenes need to be earned, and the reward will be worth it.
Regarding the release, I would like to present the working concept as soon as possible. When I complete CVR: MB, I’m focusing on it as our next project, and I’ll do my best to release it (maybe a fragment of it as a working concept) in Q1 2024. Then it will be regularly updated with new content.
LIVING WITH TEMPTATION 2 REDUX ON HOLD
I’ve decided to put on hold the new LWT2. And that’s an excellent news. Initially, we wanted to develop the project with the same visual settings the LWT1: REDUX has – shaders, type of animation, character models, how we present locations, etc. I was intensively thinking about this and decided that if we wanted to make it, we needed to develop it in a completely different visual standard. We need a step forward in our rendering technology, and for the last weeks, our team has been looking for new solutions how to deliver the best visual quality we can offer. And we almost achieved it. I’m thrilled about that, but it’s too soon to reveal everything. Still, YAMYODA is secretly working on one more thing, which is crucial in sending the rendering quality into space, and he needs more time to achieve his goal.
Sounds pretty good.
Still not entirely sold on the 5 day period format, but you guys sure put out the right kind of renders to make me very excited about the project. If release is slated for within 5 months, we got a pretty exciting and filled 2 quarters coming up.
Hopefully Lisa’s checkered lingerie also makes a comeback.
LwT2 definitely needs a visual upgrade. It just isn’t up to standards anymore to replay. But if waiting a bit means it’ll be good for a while, I can wait. Since I remember when it first came out the visuals were outdated like right after.
Good job, keep up the strong work. Still hopeful people who have the disk space can still get the uncompressed versions.
As long as repeatable events with characters are still a thing I’m positive about the 5 time periods a day solution. After playing the new expansion I had difficulty figuring out how to trigger certain events. Maybe in the future, you can have a quest log so when certain events trigger you can look at the new quest chain and see how to advance that branch of the story, like visiting Lisa’s room in the afternoon etc. I know it will have to track variables but I think it would make the game a more enjoyable experience. Even if it’s only available after multiple playthroughs it would help. Another change I’d like to see is on the UI side. Many Ren’Py games use images in the gallery that represent the scenes and I’d personally prefer that to a list of text especially when the scenes might be similar to another. It’s not a massive change so I’m hoping it might be something you’d consider in the future. Looking forward to American Sunset.
Of course – I plan to introduce some kind of quest tracker, at least for more advanced events or situations. And yes, we’ll redesign the interface for sex and endings gallery with images, like we do for all our Renpy games.
I last played LwT on Steam which is Unity so I completely forgot you have already done the gallery change with the Ren’Py games. I just checked Horos and that’s exactly what I wanted so sorry about that and Horos even has a quest tracker too. At least I now know what to expect more from the latest version of LwT so cheers!
Lisa in a plaid skirt? Yowza, top notch work. Add in a big explosive finale and you’ll have everybody blowing steam out of their ears.
Wow, great news! Everything about American Sunset sounds great to me. I am also hoping that a new location for Hannah means more scenes with Hannah 🙂
Yes, I would like to include more scenes with Hannah – I know that many of you love this character. Her model is beautiful as well and I would like to see her again.
Sounds all nice and good, but is it possible to get new endings as well if it is going to be a different or rather more with the more scenes that are added into the game.
I believe that we gonna completely rethink the ending strategy.
Can’t wait to play the updated version, sounds very promising. Regular updates that don’t take years to come out are also appreciated. The new locations mean new opportunities for sex scenes which ist great. Btw really like the german license plate on the Mercedes.
I’m kind of confused with the LWT1 direction. You’re removing the 24hr and stats as these are mundane by … introducing other stat building mundane tasks (social media, book studies etc). As impressive as the Eleanor games are, this is what discourages me from them and prefer LWT and CVR.
At this point, it feels like LWT1 is being expanded beyond believably considering events in LWT2 and makes the concept of a LWT3 even more complex.
Don’t worry – the stat system modification is well-thought, and the whole game flow will benefit from it. We’re trying to simplify this aspect and add other elements I mentioned, like studying Egyptian culture, which is a story-based experience, will lead to unlocking new content oriented around this subject. So you’re not following a new stat – only a new story path.
Also, the new content we gonna add won’t influence the LWT2 game.
I never enjoyed the cell phone/social media elements of games, I always thought they were annoying BS to click through.
I think that if I were to actually enjoy those elements, there would have to me some kind of sexual tension involved. Like getting a text in the middle of a sex scene, or texting a forbidden lover while in bed with a spouse. But checking the phone throughout the day, responding to logistics texts, lame joke texts, and liking insta pics is just flat out boring to me.
I like the time period change, micromanaging hours got boring.
Having said all that, I really check blog posts to see if there will be more cheating and sharing content. More Tracy cheating and more twisted Justin cheating. Cuckold and cuckquean.
Whatever needs to be done to get a content stream flowing would be a win. Really, after a certain point, a “good enough” engine and lots more content is dramatically better than a “perfect” engine and re-rendered scenes with new dialog options.
We’ve played many other visual novels with a mobile phone included in their gameplay, and I had experiences similar to yours. This device needs to be used smartly, as an addition, offering new possibilities, not forcing you to engage in boring interactions like responding to text messages. You do it in real life. Why to repeat that in a game? With this module, we want to give a sense that girls are thinking about you when they are not with you and present to you that they are also living their own independent lives.
We won’t re-render scenes – we will use the content we already have. That’s the base. We’ll ass more content in terms of daily actions (and change its structure a little bit), and then we gonna provide new events, including new characters and locations. All those changes are made to amp up the game experience and allow you to build even more personal and more profound relations with already-established partners.
If you’re going to make more LWT 1 please include more scenes with Keiko.
One scene that seemed like it was missed was at the club when Keiko and Lisa are competing for Justin’s attention. We know Sandy loves to toy with people, so I thought perhaps Sandy would encourage Lisa/Keiko to prove they’re the best choice for Justin in a sexual way, like with a sexy dance contest which could lead to a 3some scene. I’m sure there are other ideas out there, but I enjoyed the Keiko model and story from the latest Luscious Secrets.
Love this idea! I was also expecting more from this scene, like Justin sneaking off with Keiko (or Lisa) for a quickie.
I’m incorporating this idea into a collection of valuable concepts worth putting into action.
Could we also see more Coco? I felt like Justin go left out with her.
One options I thought of is that Justin being very attractive and asking her a lot of questions could lead to Coco giving Justin a private demonstration of some of the products, like using the fleshlight on him or she puts in the butt plug and tells him to get his cock out cause she needs to give him a demonstration of how the butt plug changes how the vagina feels for him.
One obvious change would be to extend the existing scene with Tracy/Coco to allow Justin to participate.
With this coming, could there be an additional path of Tracy simply cheating on Justin? I’ve never been a fan of the cuck route, not that it should be removed, but half this game is about Justin sneaking around with other women. Why not Tracy sneaking around with other men?
I feel like this can go a couple ways.
1. Tracy is sleeping with Daniel
In this scenario there could be a decision point when Justin is in the tree spying on Tracy/Daniel at the dock, and that instead of slipping he stays up there and watches his wife get with Daniel on the dock. IF Justin watches the whole thing and chooses not to get a lawyer and divorce, then this opens the floodgates for Tracy cheating with Daniel and Justin becoming more of a voyeur.
There could be nights where Tracy comes home and immediately leaves in something sexy/stunning and claims it’s a lawyer networking event or something. Justin can try and follow her or stay home. If he follows he sees her meeting Daniel at the bar of a hotel. Justin sits in the back corner and watches Tracy flirt with Daniel until they go up to the room.
Justin could still be trying to get his own on the side, so one night at the club he’s dancing with Keiko, or Dr. Lotta and notices Tracy enter so he quickly ducks into a corner to watch. He follows Tracy as she and Daniel sneak to the restroom and Justin watches from the door as they have sex on the bathroom counter. Or maybe the go into the alley behind the club (like the first time with Lisa and Justin).
IF Justin is having a relationship with Keiko then Keiko will let Justin know that Daniel has been having a lot of closed door “lunch meetings” at the office with Tracy. Justin tells Keiko to let him know if he shows up again some day, and Justin spies on Tracy having sex in her office with Daniel.
On the weekend Justin now knows that Tracy is essentially going up to the cabin to see Daniel. IF Justin is there on the weekends, Tracy will make an excuse to get away and get over to Daniel’s cabin for sex. Justin follows to watch from outside peering in. Or she will push Justin to take a walk alone. Justin can then go for the walk, but not go far and wait to see if she’s going to cheat some more, repeat Daniel/Tracy on the dock.
On the weekend IF Justin stays home he maybe pops to the mall (ether alone or will Lisa) and sees Tracy entering a boutique with Daniel. Justin sneaks in behind to see his wife trying on sexy lingerie for Daniel and they have sex in the dressing room while Justin peers in through a crack in the curtains.
2. Tracy feels neglected after the swinger club
As described in the swinger ending, we know that Justin is well liked at the club due to his ability to finish on command, and more than once. As they continue to visit the swinger club Justin tends to go off on his own more and more leaving Tracy to continue with other men on the nights that Justin/Tracy agree to go have a visit to the club. (Note: with this path it would open up visiting the swinger club more than once instead of leading to a swinger or cuckold ending) As we know with the current endings, there is a path where Tracy starts going to the club on her own and having gangbangs/sex parties at their house with Justin feeling like a cuckold of sorts.
Many of the scenarios above can be changed slightly to accommodate this slutty Tracy narrative…..
Tracy comes home and immediately leaves in something sexy to meet up with guys for hookups. Justin can watch her at a hotel bar meeting up with 1 or 2 very handsome random men and eventually going up to a room.
Justin is at the club and see Tracy grinding on 1 or 2 guys and Justin follows them to the bathroom or alley to watch.
IF Justin is having a relationship with Keiko then Keiko will let Justin know that Tracy has been having a lot of closed door “lunch meetings” and it’s never been the same man. Cut to Keiko telling Justin to come over quick and watch Tracy in her office from the door.
On one of the weekends Justin says he isn’t going to the cabin, Justin drives up to the cabin to see Tracy on the dock with at least 2 men.
Justin sees Tracy at the college library on one of his own visits. He ducks behind some bookshelves and finds the girls he normally talks to and asks them if they know her. They say they’ve seen her with a few of the other students in other more secluded parts of the library having sex with other guys. Justin can follow Tracy for a scene where she has sex in the book stacks with a college guy.
Also in this scenario I’d love to see a scene at the swinger club where Lisa/Sandy show up and get with Justin. This would continue to a scene in the afternoon one day when Derek, Lisa, and Sandy are all at the pool and Sandy goes into the office interrupting Justin to come out for group sex.
Having mentioned Derek, I’d like to see more of him. If we go down this slutty Tracy route why not have Tracy sleep with Derek? One night at 21:00 when Tracy is normally at the pool Justin goes outside to find her, but realizes he can’t see her, but hears something around the corner. Cut to Tracy kissing Derek then asking him to get his dick out because Lisa talked it up. Tracy gives him a blowjob and then removes her bikini bottom and leans against the wall of the house for Derek to have sex with her from behind.
I’m definitely excited since it seems like we’re going to be ambitious with things. I know everyone has their two cents for specific content (and I see a lot of suggested ideas making their way in) I’d like to put forth an ambitious overarching one that LoP’s writing staff and LwT specifically I think would be perfect for.
I’d really like dynamic relationships to be further explored with all the girls in terms of gameplay. How I see it in my head is you have your relationship points with each girl, however in the background there are a bunch of other stats being calculated by how you’ve gone about raising their relationship. They can be called other things but for the sake of the explanation you have Romantic, Lustful, Adventurous and raising those hidden stats changes how Justin and the girls relationship progresses both in story and in scenes.
Easy example would be Lisa, doing sweet or romantic things for her to build up your relationship gets you something like the love letter, while doing only lustful things means she’ll want to get down and dirty harder, but cares less about Justin’s other relationships.
I just think it would give the player a more customized experience in building relationships with the girls and interacting with them through Justin. It admittedly would have you guys tailoring scenes or dialogue options/responses to a different set of parameters, but that kind of deep relationship building and writing is the main thing I always attribute to LoP. More work, but if you’re going to be ambitious why not go further and create a way for players to make a more personal connection with the characters when you’re rebuilding the game.
I plan to switch from a 24-hour system to 5 periods per day – it first needs to be tested, but I’m convinced that this approach will provide much more dynamics and variety to the daily schedule and allow us to manage the event system more easily and efficiently. Moreover, we’ll be able to present characters in different clothes at various periods of the day.
–I think this is would be a mistake. It’s the same idea that rather messed up LWT2. It restricts player choice and messes up causality. You can present characters in different clothes at different times of the day already.
we plan to make the game more story-driven than a stat builder. Of course, you still gonna raise your stats but we’ll try to make it more event-oriented than a mundane duty,
Justin’s work is essential to him – we gonna help him build his career by creating a new module responsible for his copywriting.
–The way your stories work well is the initial stat building, then the time management. In LWT1 (non redux) you did a great job of this. I don’t understand why the Redux has reduced the daily sexual content with Lisa. It makes her a much less interesting character. You guys put so much effort into making those scenes beautiful only for them never to be repeated?
–“Story-driven” means nothing. There’s a mechanism for Lisa and Keiko to fight each other, but nothing that lets them reconcile. Likewise, Lisa and Hannah. Likewise Tracy and Keiko. You’re presenting half-stories. Tracy ends up a group sex fanatic, once, with no chance to repeat. Keiko loves giving oral, with no chance for her to do that repeatedly. Hannah would like anal, but never offers it. LOP have got to start working the scripts so they work.
–Ultimately, you have all the characters you need. And now you need to be more mature and insightful as to their use.
Hey, Iskanbot, Leonizer and the team. First, let me say I’ve indulged in your content for a little over 2-3 years. You all are literally creating erotic art in a previously unexplored field. I’ve always admired your dedication and commitment to your craft. You all are truly artists and I hope that you all get the recognition you deserve. With that being said, I have to note that LWT is my favorite series above classics like Jordan 500 and OG Eleanor. I really appreciate the evolution of the characters, and every expansion and sequel has been just as enticing narratively and otherwise.
I’m not sure how the transition from 5 day period to 24 hrs. will go, as that fundamentally changes the process of the game and its structuring. I know this is only from my perspective, but the alluring parts of the game was the ability to make Justin a complete deviant and “hack” the game in a sense. Like getting with Keiko and then having Tracy blow you, or doing the same with Lisa. I did like the period system in LWT2 because it was not the same game and played as such, but the 24 hour system allows player freedom and versatility. The branching options probably become insanely convoluted as a result, but I believe that attention to detail and passion in your projects is what separates your work from the plebs.
My points of “contention”, if they can even be referred as such, are the lack of expansion on the wife sharing and cabin visits. I know there were multiple expansions and they were amazing, but I’ve watched this game go from a sim to something else. It’s actually become fully immersive being Justin and watching every character’s development. My only inquiries are the expanding of Daniel’s role as a bull, expanding of Derek’s role with Lisa (and possibly Tracy?), and just expansion of the kinky side of Justin and Tracy’s relationship without destroying Justin as a person.
For example, the visits to the cabin trigger the Daniel events, but why is it a one-time event? Those scenes are super hot and encourage repeat playthroughs as they provide further user immersion. I’ve always wondered why the best scenes were only 1 time; I get the Vegas trip has to be a one-time thing, but I feel like there’s much inherent versatility in looping specific events. The Daniel storyline should be repeatable until his point of departure; I also don’t think the Cuckold route should be bad unless you were actively cheating and mistreating Tracy. If possible, it would be amazing to see a full wife-sharing branch that allows Justin to encourage Tracy into complete deviancy. Likewise, having Justin delve deeper into his unknown deviant nature, such as intercourse with the gym girls before going home to Tracy, would provide a more immersive experience/simulation.
Just 2 cents from a long-time subscriber. Thanks for all your hard work!
[EDIT] *from 24 hours to 5 day periods